The new Bible versions are provably wrong when they say the very opposite of God’s word found in the inspired text of the Authorized (King James) Version of the Bible.
I’m watching videos about the authenticity of the KJV Bible .” A detailed collection of “impossible notes that display the miraculous inspiration and preservation of Gods word to mankind.”
The copyright argument is a very strong argument against the new versions. The fact that unless there is major changes they would not get copyrights and could not publish their new versions.
Let me preface by saying I enjoy listening to you, and I respect and admire you, and your position on just about everything I’ve come across. Your trust in some of the medical ideologies/procedures may be an exception. I especially appreciate your Biblical earth work!
On page 45 of the book referenced in this article, you wrote “…Notice how Satan leaves off the last four words…” Then you write,
““For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways” (Psalms 91:11 AV)”
and beneath it:
“”For it is written, For he shall give his angels charge over thee to keep thee.” (Luke 4:10 AV)”
Luke’s meaning is absolutely clear ~ with or without the last four words. To say it’s Satan, makes no sense in the context you’ve given, unless you are indicating that even King James had the scriptures translated without a pure heart, and that he was not above allowing “adding or taking” (letting Satan in, so to speak) and that it’s not only modern day translators prone to possible inconsistencies. We’ve read that may be the case, and that some modern translations HAVE corrected KJV from the ancient texts. It’s difficult to be certain since we have no originals…
You can sit on your mountain of privilege and spout off about those of us reading and distributing all but the KJV going to hell or being heretics, but that shows little faith in our Father. He ALONE knows the heart. He can provide Truth in any context as He promises His word will be preserved. I’d certainly rather read something that flows in my own spoken language (I don’t speak Old English), and I’m sure there are MANY misunderstandings by KJV only folks because we DON’T speak that way, or even use the same vocabulary in many cases.
Here at the bottom of the mountain, I work with street kids (all male) ~ some lucky to be alive, with bullet wounds to prove it, others who have killed, or tried to kill others in the streets. Drugs are the driving force behind everything. Some have no family to speak of ~ or worse, have families with members who have abused and raped them for years - or sold them for the same to fuel their own demons, until corrupt CYS agencies remove them. That rarely improves their lives. By the time they get to me, some are a mess and often can’t read above a 3rd grade level. KJV?! Laughable. They have limited vocabulary when it comes to everyday English! I’ve seen adults walk away from the KJV Scriptures because they can’t read & comprehend; they become exasperated and give up. I do what I can to teach these kids about Jesus and provide them with a Bible ~ whatever I have in the collection I’ve managed to assemble. The simplest is best. I let God worry about helping them read and understand it, and changing their hearts and lives. I’ve even given out The Adventure Bible <gasp!>. Comic book style isn’t my first choice, but when you see a 15-year-old thrilled because he’s “read” and understands a little bit about God or Jesus, I see God at work. I just bought a big box of “365 Read Aloud Bible Stories” written quite simply. Some kids are convinced, and have accepted, they’re going to hell because they know going home means the streets ~ where they’ll be forced to live “accordingly”. It’s heartbreaking! And heartbreaking to get word when one has killed, been killed, overdosed, or done something that means decades in prison. God alone knows their hearts.
If you know of a suitable resource ~ book, brief Bible study, or whatever, that would SIMPLY explain to teens what Christianity is, what it takes to be saved, and how to live for God, I’d love to hear your recommendations (maybe you could write something?!). KJV just can’t cut it; I’d love to write something but am intimidated by the idea of speaking for God and not getting it all accurate. I already worry about saying things that are incorrect and leading these kids wrong somehow! I pray constantly for God to guide me and to protect them. Thanks for hearing me; blessings on you always.
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. -- Psa 12:6-7 - 1611 KJB.
Agreed, Mystery Babylon has been trying to destroy this book from the beginning. But all who love the truth and desire wisdom, receive it from the LORD: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. -- Prov 2:6
This is just one - and a more refined & subtle example - of the many ways that society, indeed, Humanity, is being grossly degraded and perverted. The evidence is abundant & all around.
The reason is because we are in the Kali Yuga, the Age of No Reason, where everything good is turned on its head, where spirituality is denied & rejected and evil accepted as the norm.
The bad news is that (they say) there are another 435,000 years of the Kali Yuga before the dawning of a new, Golden Age. The good news is that there is always a rope out of the swamp and the KGV, if interpreted at the deepest of its seven levels of understanding, could form part of that escape.
PS I'm also waiting for someone qualified to explain those levels.
You speak as a heathen denying the power of God revealed in the Authorized 1611 King James Bible; which is not another "version" but God's direct words to man and to him who would believe it.
Spirituality denied? We are in the age of the gospel of the grace of God. People are blinded by the god of this world because they know not God nor believe his word. The good news is that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures. The Spirit of God interprets his own word if you would dig into it and turn away from your false religious Hinduistic beliefs.
You might die and receive your eternal, just reward apart from God and the Lord Jesus Christ before you understand truth. Those levels of lies are leading you there now.
Thank you, Dawn for your version of the Truth, which I respect. It is, however, simply your (strongly held) belief - nothing more - unless you have a direct line to God which I doubt, as God is beyond all human understanding.
To condemn others' beliefs (also strongly held, by billions of people) as 'heathen', 'lies' & 'false' simply shows ignorance and a narrow, closed mind.
So Dawn, here's my version of the Truth and I'll keep it simple for you:
* God created everything that was, is and will be.
* We 'left' God (The Prodigal Son story in the KGV) and are on our way back, over the Ages, lifetime after lifetime.
* He gave Man Free Will & Consciousness but also created the Law of Consequences (sometimes known as Karma) under which we live. That Law cannot be gainsaid.
* Therefore, every thought, word & deed has its consequence, for good & ill.
* We are reborn, lifetime after lifetime to a time & place, to parents we choose & circumstances exactly & precisely appropriate to the results of our previous thoughts, words & deeds. It's truly amazing, wonderful and just, don't you agree, Dawn? There are no accidents in the Universe, not one! (otherwise, kindly explain how one child is born into abject poverty & misery; another with the proverbial 'solver spoon. Happenstance, Dawn? An uncaring Creator?
* We cannot change our present circumstance as they are a direct result of previous actions. But, having the blessing of free will & consciousness, our RIGHT actions NOW, in this very moment, will create more propitious future circumstances. It's beautiful in its simplicity!
* Man is blessed with a veil of forgetfulness between births, or incarnations as most would not be able to bear the truth & knowledge of previous actions.
Around 110AD (I'd need to look it up) the 'religious' heads at the time met at Constantinople and removed from the writings of the Disciples & others, all reference to re-incarnation and put themselves as the ones with knowledge, not God. It's been like that ever since. And now we have this Pope! God help us!
You might like to read The Gospel According to St Thomas, which was also removed from the Bible, but survived. In it, he refers to re-birth.
Dawn, I'm quite sure you're a good person and mean well. Somewhere in the KGV is a reference about 'judging not others' and 'taking out the planks from your own eye' and you might want to bookmark that.
I wish you well on your journey back to source.
PS Christ was, I believe, a fully realised Man ie fully conscious, sent to earth by God (His and our Father) as a Prophet, a Guide, to teach & show us the way. His wonderful work continues, through good people like you, more than two thousand years later.
"He that is spiritual judgeth all things... " 1 Cor 2:15.
I'm not judging your heart, God will do that. I'm judging the things you speak of, and they are not of the Holy Scriptures but of some religious philosophy which contradicts the Apostle Paul's doctrine for the church today. I have published many posts concerning my understanding of God's Word which I am in every day. Your doctrine is strange.
Not even sure why you read Hendrie's work. He and I agree on most things, including the geocentric, Biblical shape of the earth... level and stationary. I have read his book.
You may have the last word. I have nothing else to say except, "God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come unto repentance... Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved."
Let's agree to disagree, Dawn. As civilised people we don't need to go to war, just respect the others' view, even if we each think the other mistaken & misguided.
I don't doubt your sincerity, even if it is, in my view, based on literal, simplistic & shallow understanding. And if you think the earth is flat, well what can I say?
At the moment of our death, we will each know the Truth (not your truth or my truth).
I came here out of curiosity but have no wish to disrupt or deflect the conversation and will unsubscribe. We're all on the same path, back to source, back to God and I again wish you well on your journey
Ian
"When you eventually see through the veils to how things really are, you will keep saying, again and again, this is certainly not like we thought it was" .
Dawn, I recently discovered Rumi and thought you might like this:
"This place is a dream. Only a sleeper considers it real. Then death comes like dawn, and you wake up laughing at what you thought was your grief." Rumi 1207-1273
and this:
"The world is nothing but a moment"
and this:
"With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love"
and this:
This whole Universe is but a drop of His Beauty"
and this:
"If you only say one prayer in a day, make it Thank You"
and this:
"It's your road & yours alone. Others may walk it with you, but no one can walk it for you".
and this:
"You wander from room to room, hunting for the diamond necklace. That is already around your neck".
I’m watching videos about the authenticity of the KJV Bible .” A detailed collection of “impossible notes that display the miraculous inspiration and preservation of Gods word to mankind.”
https://youtube.com/@TruthisChrist?si=GSmYVShObxwfgsev
The copyright argument is a very strong argument against the new versions. The fact that unless there is major changes they would not get copyrights and could not publish their new versions.
Let me preface by saying I enjoy listening to you, and I respect and admire you, and your position on just about everything I’ve come across. Your trust in some of the medical ideologies/procedures may be an exception. I especially appreciate your Biblical earth work!
On page 45 of the book referenced in this article, you wrote “…Notice how Satan leaves off the last four words…” Then you write,
““For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways” (Psalms 91:11 AV)”
and beneath it:
“”For it is written, For he shall give his angels charge over thee to keep thee.” (Luke 4:10 AV)”
Luke’s meaning is absolutely clear ~ with or without the last four words. To say it’s Satan, makes no sense in the context you’ve given, unless you are indicating that even King James had the scriptures translated without a pure heart, and that he was not above allowing “adding or taking” (letting Satan in, so to speak) and that it’s not only modern day translators prone to possible inconsistencies. We’ve read that may be the case, and that some modern translations HAVE corrected KJV from the ancient texts. It’s difficult to be certain since we have no originals…
You can sit on your mountain of privilege and spout off about those of us reading and distributing all but the KJV going to hell or being heretics, but that shows little faith in our Father. He ALONE knows the heart. He can provide Truth in any context as He promises His word will be preserved. I’d certainly rather read something that flows in my own spoken language (I don’t speak Old English), and I’m sure there are MANY misunderstandings by KJV only folks because we DON’T speak that way, or even use the same vocabulary in many cases.
Here at the bottom of the mountain, I work with street kids (all male) ~ some lucky to be alive, with bullet wounds to prove it, others who have killed, or tried to kill others in the streets. Drugs are the driving force behind everything. Some have no family to speak of ~ or worse, have families with members who have abused and raped them for years - or sold them for the same to fuel their own demons, until corrupt CYS agencies remove them. That rarely improves their lives. By the time they get to me, some are a mess and often can’t read above a 3rd grade level. KJV?! Laughable. They have limited vocabulary when it comes to everyday English! I’ve seen adults walk away from the KJV Scriptures because they can’t read & comprehend; they become exasperated and give up. I do what I can to teach these kids about Jesus and provide them with a Bible ~ whatever I have in the collection I’ve managed to assemble. The simplest is best. I let God worry about helping them read and understand it, and changing their hearts and lives. I’ve even given out The Adventure Bible <gasp!>. Comic book style isn’t my first choice, but when you see a 15-year-old thrilled because he’s “read” and understands a little bit about God or Jesus, I see God at work. I just bought a big box of “365 Read Aloud Bible Stories” written quite simply. Some kids are convinced, and have accepted, they’re going to hell because they know going home means the streets ~ where they’ll be forced to live “accordingly”. It’s heartbreaking! And heartbreaking to get word when one has killed, been killed, overdosed, or done something that means decades in prison. God alone knows their hearts.
If you know of a suitable resource ~ book, brief Bible study, or whatever, that would SIMPLY explain to teens what Christianity is, what it takes to be saved, and how to live for God, I’d love to hear your recommendations (maybe you could write something?!). KJV just can’t cut it; I’d love to write something but am intimidated by the idea of speaking for God and not getting it all accurate. I already worry about saying things that are incorrect and leading these kids wrong somehow! I pray constantly for God to guide me and to protect them. Thanks for hearing me; blessings on you always.
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. -- Psa 12:6-7 - 1611 KJB.
Agreed, Mystery Babylon has been trying to destroy this book from the beginning. But all who love the truth and desire wisdom, receive it from the LORD: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. -- Prov 2:6
This is just one - and a more refined & subtle example - of the many ways that society, indeed, Humanity, is being grossly degraded and perverted. The evidence is abundant & all around.
The reason is because we are in the Kali Yuga, the Age of No Reason, where everything good is turned on its head, where spirituality is denied & rejected and evil accepted as the norm.
The bad news is that (they say) there are another 435,000 years of the Kali Yuga before the dawning of a new, Golden Age. The good news is that there is always a rope out of the swamp and the KGV, if interpreted at the deepest of its seven levels of understanding, could form part of that escape.
PS I'm also waiting for someone qualified to explain those levels.
You speak as a heathen denying the power of God revealed in the Authorized 1611 King James Bible; which is not another "version" but God's direct words to man and to him who would believe it.
Spirituality denied? We are in the age of the gospel of the grace of God. People are blinded by the god of this world because they know not God nor believe his word. The good news is that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures. The Spirit of God interprets his own word if you would dig into it and turn away from your false religious Hinduistic beliefs.
You might die and receive your eternal, just reward apart from God and the Lord Jesus Christ before you understand truth. Those levels of lies are leading you there now.
Thank you, Dawn for your version of the Truth, which I respect. It is, however, simply your (strongly held) belief - nothing more - unless you have a direct line to God which I doubt, as God is beyond all human understanding.
To condemn others' beliefs (also strongly held, by billions of people) as 'heathen', 'lies' & 'false' simply shows ignorance and a narrow, closed mind.
So Dawn, here's my version of the Truth and I'll keep it simple for you:
* God created everything that was, is and will be.
* We 'left' God (The Prodigal Son story in the KGV) and are on our way back, over the Ages, lifetime after lifetime.
* He gave Man Free Will & Consciousness but also created the Law of Consequences (sometimes known as Karma) under which we live. That Law cannot be gainsaid.
* Therefore, every thought, word & deed has its consequence, for good & ill.
* We are reborn, lifetime after lifetime to a time & place, to parents we choose & circumstances exactly & precisely appropriate to the results of our previous thoughts, words & deeds. It's truly amazing, wonderful and just, don't you agree, Dawn? There are no accidents in the Universe, not one! (otherwise, kindly explain how one child is born into abject poverty & misery; another with the proverbial 'solver spoon. Happenstance, Dawn? An uncaring Creator?
* We cannot change our present circumstance as they are a direct result of previous actions. But, having the blessing of free will & consciousness, our RIGHT actions NOW, in this very moment, will create more propitious future circumstances. It's beautiful in its simplicity!
* Man is blessed with a veil of forgetfulness between births, or incarnations as most would not be able to bear the truth & knowledge of previous actions.
Around 110AD (I'd need to look it up) the 'religious' heads at the time met at Constantinople and removed from the writings of the Disciples & others, all reference to re-incarnation and put themselves as the ones with knowledge, not God. It's been like that ever since. And now we have this Pope! God help us!
You might like to read The Gospel According to St Thomas, which was also removed from the Bible, but survived. In it, he refers to re-birth.
Dawn, I'm quite sure you're a good person and mean well. Somewhere in the KGV is a reference about 'judging not others' and 'taking out the planks from your own eye' and you might want to bookmark that.
I wish you well on your journey back to source.
PS Christ was, I believe, a fully realised Man ie fully conscious, sent to earth by God (His and our Father) as a Prophet, a Guide, to teach & show us the way. His wonderful work continues, through good people like you, more than two thousand years later.
"He that is spiritual judgeth all things... " 1 Cor 2:15.
I'm not judging your heart, God will do that. I'm judging the things you speak of, and they are not of the Holy Scriptures but of some religious philosophy which contradicts the Apostle Paul's doctrine for the church today. I have published many posts concerning my understanding of God's Word which I am in every day. Your doctrine is strange.
Not even sure why you read Hendrie's work. He and I agree on most things, including the geocentric, Biblical shape of the earth... level and stationary. I have read his book.
https://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Lie-Earth-Proof-Moving/dp/1943056013
You may have the last word. I have nothing else to say except, "God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come unto repentance... Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved."
Let's agree to disagree, Dawn. As civilised people we don't need to go to war, just respect the others' view, even if we each think the other mistaken & misguided.
I don't doubt your sincerity, even if it is, in my view, based on literal, simplistic & shallow understanding. And if you think the earth is flat, well what can I say?
At the moment of our death, we will each know the Truth (not your truth or my truth).
I came here out of curiosity but have no wish to disrupt or deflect the conversation and will unsubscribe. We're all on the same path, back to source, back to God and I again wish you well on your journey
Ian
"When you eventually see through the veils to how things really are, you will keep saying, again and again, this is certainly not like we thought it was" .
Rumi 1207-1273
Dawn, I recently discovered Rumi and thought you might like this:
"This place is a dream. Only a sleeper considers it real. Then death comes like dawn, and you wake up laughing at what you thought was your grief." Rumi 1207-1273
and this:
"The world is nothing but a moment"
and this:
"With life as short as a half-taken breath, don't plant anything but love"
and this:
This whole Universe is but a drop of His Beauty"
and this:
"If you only say one prayer in a day, make it Thank You"
and this:
"It's your road & yours alone. Others may walk it with you, but no one can walk it for you".
and this:
"You wander from room to room, hunting for the diamond necklace. That is already around your neck".
Garbage. I'm only interested in truth not man's philosophies.